(Philosophy Poem) It Will Be What It Will Be

It Will Be What It Will Be

 

What is Life if not a journey within itself

We all begin the same yet is the end for all

Parents nor our Race were we ever able to choose

Born to Trumpets or onto a field of sweat and mud

Yet it is the center that decides: the Death we’ll live

 

Simple answer to some of the really big questions

Were there Men and Women before Adam and Eve

Were the ‘God’s of the Underworld’ actually Demons

Will the World War we fear be the one called Armageddon

Just as sure as death, there is a ‘Life After’: Yes

(A Savage Comment) Creationism AND Evolution: There Is Truth In Both Of Them

Creationism AND Evolution: There Is Truth In Both Of Them

 

I am a devout life long Christian yet I have for most of my adult life debated how Christians (for the most part) are so oblivious to reality and to the Truths that are shown us in the Bible. So many people who believe in the Bible as the Holy Spirit Inspired Word Of God (as I also do) tend to read the Bible with ‘Church Doctrine’ blinders on. Back in the time of the Apostles and the time that Jesus walked the Earth when they taught in the Synagogues the people studied the Scriptures to see if what they were being taught was the truth or not. Just because your Preacher or a Church Elder, Bishop, or if you are Catholic, even the Pope, tells you something it is your Christian obligation to search out the Scriptures to see if what you are being told is Biblical truth.

 

Reality is that the ignorance of Christians/Churches have convinced millions if not billions of people throughout history to turn their backs on the Jewish and the Christian faith. Right from the very first book of the Bible (Genesis) Christians and Jews do not understand what we are so plainly being told. Yes the world and all in it were created in six days, but those six days are not, were not, human days, they were God’s days. I nor any other human knows what one of God’s days represent compared to a human day but Scripture tells us over and over again that God’s days are not our days yet humans keep trying to make that be so anyway. Even in our own solar system every single planet that circles the sun has a different amount of our hours in one of their days. Some will, through their ego’s say, well why didn’t Moses just lay it all our for us so we could know exactly everything? Folks, almost all of the humans that were alive about 3,600-3,700 human years ago calculated time through their own ancestors which normally only traversed back 3, 4, or 5 generations at best. Do you honestly think if Moses had started teaching them of thinks that happened 3 or 4 billion years ago that these people would have listened to him? What if Moses had started laying out the lineage of Dinosaurs, what do you think they would have done? My guess is that the people would have shunned him for being a crazy man.

 

Most all of us know some about the story of Adam and Eve from the first two chapters of Genesis but my question to everyone is, just how well have you read it? Have you just taken the word of the Church you attend as to what the Scripture actually is telling us all? Please reread the first two chapters. If you will notice in the first chapter Adam was created but before His creation God created ‘men and women, and, God created He them’. After God had created multiple ‘men and women’ God created Adam. Now in the first chapter, after God did all of His creating of those ‘Six Days’, God rested from His work on the 7th day. Then after all His work was done and He had created the first group of people (the Gentiles) and Adam, then in chapter #2 God then created Eve to be a help mate for Adam. Folks, the ‘promised one, the Messiah, Jesus The Christ’ lineage is traced back through the ‘Royal Blood Line’ to Adam, actually to Eve. There were two human creations, the gentiles, and the Royal Blood Line of Adam. Adam and Eve were about 5,500 human years ago yet humans were on this planet many thousands of years before this time. Jesus Himself referred to us Gentiles as “people before this time whom were not a people”. Jesus was pointing out that before His time here on Earth, before His Resurrection that salvation was only to the Jews and to no one else. So, people who were not a people, Gentiles! These are simple truths laid out in writing for us all to see yet we choose to remain blind. Think about a few things we are told here in the beginning of Genesis. After Cain had murdered his brother Able God banished Cain to the East of Eden in the land of Nod. God put a mark on the forehead of Cain so that “all who find him would not kill him”, folks, all of who? There were only 3 people left on the planet right, just Cain, his Mom Eve and his Dad Adam, so all of whom? Then after Cain had been banished he took a wife, wait a minute, where did she come from? Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible/Torah through the guidance of God’s Spirit, whom we tend to call the Holy Spirit from the New Testament. The Truth of the Scriptures are right before our eyes, but we have been trained not to see the real Truth. We have been taught Church doctrines instead which has run many millions of people away from God’s teachings.

 

If Moses had told the people of his time that the world was about 4-5 billion years old and that the planet we call Earth had started with a big interstellar bang what do you think the people would have done to him? At the very least they would have thought him to be crazy and no one would have paid him any mind. To my Christian and Jewish brothers, yes there were such things as dinosaurs and there has been life on this planet for several hundred millions of human years. I did not say that there has been human life here on Earth for hundreds of millions of our years, just life itself. God does not want us to be ignorant for ignorance begets death, physical and spiritual. Science has pretty much discovered/proven that human life has been on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years, not just the 5,000-5,500 years since Adam and Eve. I am not an archaeologist even though I am a huge fan of history. I know that science has been looking for the so-called ‘missing link’ between Primates and Humans for longer than I have been alive. This is like trying to find that pot of gold at the end of a rainbow, it doesn’t exist folks.

 

Evolution, is there such a thing? Of course there is folks. As an example I would like to use the people science calls Neanderthals. For most of my life time scientist have wondered what happened to them, why did they go extinct? Just like the people before them who bred with them the same thing happened to them, they were bred out of existence. You can breed cattle with buffalo and you get what is called beefalo. You can take oranges and breed them with tangerines and you get a product called tangelos. In Scripture the ‘House of Israel’ was forbidden to mix blood with any of the Gentiles, if they did then they were counted as not being pure. Humans did not crawl up out of the oceans and even though we have many of the same molecules of other creatures we did not derive from them and they did not derive from us. Today science can create a form of a human being through cloning and some would call this evolution, that we have evolved into a more pure condition but they are ignorant of reality. Science can play God, but they are not God. Just as if I could make an android and give it a human name like George, George is still not a human. The difference in these two creations of science and a real human being is that science can not create ‘a Soul’. It is the Soul that makes the conscientiousness that makes one human and only God can create the Soul. Is there such a thing as evolution, of course there is, just not to the extent that some scientist believe and or are trying to find or create.

 

Science has some things wrong, yet they do have many things correct. Churches have many things correct, yet they have many things wrong. It is the job of the Churches to teach the whole Truth but first the Churches must open their eyes to what the Scriptures actually say and to forget about ‘Church doctrines’. The Earth is a special place for it is designated to be “God’s Footstool”. Earth is where Jesus will reign from once the New Jerusalem comes down from Heaven to replace the current city of Jerusalem once it has been totally destroyed after the Second Advent. Now, Christians, wake up to reality about other planets. Do you honestly think that if God is the Creator of all things in the Heavens and on the Earth that He created billions of planets for no purpose or reason at all? To the best of my knowledge I have never seen an alien yet I totally believe that they exist, it would be difficult to honestly believe other wise. Then again there is the issue of, what does an alien actually look like? Personally I have no idea, but I do doubt that they look like humans. Personally I believe in the existence of Angels, I also believe that I have seen and spoken with at least two in my lifetime. I also believe in the existence of Satan and of His Angels, to me, to not believe in both is Biblical ignorance. I personally do not know if I have ever spoken directly with any Demons but I think that there is a very good chance that I have several times. I know that I have experienced being in places and in the presence of a few people where the feeling of pure evil was like a stench in the air, you could feel it, you could almost taste it. Remember, if you spend your life trying to be good and trying your best to be the best follower of Christ that you know how to be, you make yourself a target for the hate of evil ones, humans and otherwise.

(A Savage Comment) Democratic And Republican Parties Are Both Anti-Christ Parties

A Visit To This Time 3 Years Ago

 

September 4, 2016
Democratic And Republican Parties Are Both Anti-Christ Parties

When I was a young child back in the 1950’s-60’s I was raised in a family that believed in the Democratic Party. My parents were folks who believed in the reality that working people if they wanted to be able to financially survive needed Union protections. They also believed that the Republican Party was solely for the wealthiest people and was clearly anti working people. They also believed that the Democratic Party, because they cared about the poor was the party that the Churches backed. I never remember going to a Church that had a Republican Minister simply because the Republicans agenda’s were in direct contrast to the love, kindness and sharing teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In 1973 the U.S. Supreme Court with their ruling on ‘Roe v Wade’ abortion ruling seemed to change the political map within the Churches. The teachings regarding abortion within the Scriptures are definitely anti-abortion yet almost all of the Churches and their Ministers remained as Democrats because they could not transcend over to a Party (Republicans) who were against basically all of the teachings of Jesus about how we should all treat each other. Yet, my question is how can a Church, a Minister, or their congregation openly or even behind closed doors back abortion? How can you say that you or a Minister (that word means, Servant) are a Christian (follower of Christ) and at the same time back abortion?

What I do not understand is why the people who say they are Christians have not created a third National Party! The Democratic Party strongly backs a woman’s “right” to have an abortion at any time during a pregnancy. The Republican Party wants to end all abortions seeing them as the murdering of over a million children here in the U.S. each year. So, Republicans have garnered the “conservative Christians” into their camp because of the abortion issue. This is even though the Republican Party Platform is still strongly anti-working people, and anti the people having the right to work under Union protections.

I am a registered voting Independent because I see both Parties as crooked and pure evil. When the people go to the polls this November we just like every other election know that either a Republican or a Democrat is going to win at every level of Government. To vote for anyone else is nothing more than a protest vote that has no effect on who actually wins the elections, it will be a Democrat or a Republican. So, just like this November we Voters are having to consider which one of the two Evils win. Especially concerning the Presidency this year, which Evil is less Evil, that is what we have to look forward to. For either of these political parties to claim to be close or closer to God is total BS. Evil is still Evil, neither of these Political Parties have the endorsement of the Scriptures of God, so how can anyone who calls themselves a Christian or Jewish endorse or support either of these Demonic structures? I used the title of them being anti-Christ, I am not saying that either Parties leadership is ‘the anti-Christ’. What I am saying is that both Parties policies are in direct indifference and defiance to the teachings of God’s Holy Scriptures, thus both Parties are Anti-Christ based organizations!

(A Savage Commentary) When The Poor Serve No Need We Will Be Exterminated

When The Poor Serve No Need We Will Be Exterminated

 

Earlier I posted an article that came from the Government of China, the article was in several of their news outlets, the article stated that by the year 2027 in China’s Financial district alone that AI will cause the loss of 2.3 million jobs. Remember that their current President for life Mr. Xi Jinping is a devout follower of Chairman Mao. When Chairman Mao was in charge in China their country’s population was about one billion people and his policies were to let about half of the Nation starve to death. One of the main reason he gave was the Central Government’s inability to not only be able to control them but also their inability to feed them. The population of the United States and of Russia combined today is about 470 million people, Mao was speaking of letting 500 million of his own people starve to death. There are many reasons that China went to their ‘one child’ policies for several decades, these were two of their top reasons.

 

There are those in China and elsewhere in the world who will argue that these things could not happen today because we are now much more civilized and to this I have to say, O really. The United States is without a doubt a ‘surveillance State’ today, if you think otherwise you are being quite naive. There are good things about living in constant surveillance though, I have no doubt that the FBI, CIA, and the NSA have stopped quite a few attacks upon the American people because of their secretive work. Yet how much freedom do the people give up for the sake of being safer? The more a government knows, the more easily they can then totally control the lives of the people. When it comes to governing a Nation the main building block of their power is their ability to control the people. Lose control on the streets, they lose their grip on their power.

 

Now let’s get back to financials within a government. Unless you are oblivious to reality you should know that the tail that wags the dog, is money. Back in the mid 1970’s I worked in a Chrysler Assembly Plant in norther Illinois for just a couple of weeks (I couldn’t stand the thought of working on an assembly line putting cushions in-car seats for at least 37 years) so I quit. What I did notice was how many people worked on the different ‘lines’. As the cars went down the assembly line you had many people doing manual labor like spot welding and putting windshields into the car frames. Go there now, see how many jobs are still there and how many are being done by automation, the job loss is staggering. Even think of stores like Wal-Mart who are getting rid of their cashiers in favor of automation and self-checkouts. Now think about self driving cars, trucks and even trains. Even companies like Uber are killing the Taxi industry. What do all of these things have in common folks? Companies are trying to get rid of human employees and the reason is simple, more profits for the top end persons in these companies.

 

If you are old enough (I am 62) do you remember when we used to hear how technologies were going to allow the workers to only have to work 4 days a week because with technologies we could get 5 days work done in 4 days? Some people were foolish enough to think that their employer was going to pay you for 5 days work even though you only worked 4 days. Reality was that the employees still worked 5 days a week but the companies demanded 6 or 7 days of finished product in the 5 days, for no more pay. Then of course the companies could ‘let go’ some of their workforce because they didn’t need them anymore. The employment issue has just grown from there as more and more computers and machines have taken over jobs that humans used to do.

 

I have spoken of the world Stock Markets before, how I believe that they are nothing but a Ponzi scheme and a curse to the working class, the working poor who labor in these corporations who are on these ‘Markets.’ Some will argue that throughout the years that they have been buying and selling stocks and bonds that they have been able to amass a ‘nice little retirement fund’, yet in reality all of a persons profits that they have amassed over the past thirty years can easily be wiped out in one or two hours on this same ‘Market scheme.’ Little people like us working class folks at best get the crumbs that fall off of the ‘Boss Mans’ plate. We are no more than dogs licking their floor and their shoes. What takes you or I 30 years to amass the ‘connected’ make in one 5 minute transaction.

 

When there are lets say 4 billion working age poor people (ages 16-70) but there are only 2 billion actual jobs that need a humans hands to do, what will happen to the other 2 billion people, and all of their families, all of the children? The Republicans in the U.S Congress often refer to things like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Aid For Dependent Children, unemployment checks, VA Disability checks and even the VA itself as “entitlements” as “Welfare”, things that must be “defunded”, “stopped.” Why is this? The answer is simple, it takes away from the money that flows to the top end of the financial class. The Republicans say that they are the “Christian right” yet their actions are as anti-Christian as you can get in American politics. Do not get me wrong, I am no fan of the Democratic Party either with their platform of murdering babies (pro-abortion). Both ‘Parties’ are pure evil, they will both do everything that they can to make sure that the American people never get to have a viable 3rd or 4th political party and the reason is simple, that would take away from their power and they aren’t about to let that happen.

 

When there is not enough jobs for the poor people to do, not even slave labor jobs, who is going to house and feed these people if they can’t get an income? Is the top 1% going to just ‘give’ these people money from their bank accounts? When there is 7 billion people on the planet but only enough food or clean drinking water for 6 billion, who is going to get that food and clean water, the poorest of the poor people? Really? If you really think so, how naive you are my friend! In this new world that is on our doorstep, indeed kicking down our doors right now, you are either the lead dog, or you are daily looking up the lead dogs ass, drinking their piss for water and licking up their shit for food. In this regard, for the poor, this new world that we are all hurtling into, thousands, then millions, then billions of people will be fighting for a position behind these lead dogs just so they can stay alive. Those who refuse will not be fed and housed, we will be exterminated!

 

Ten Quick King Solomon Proverbs To Lighten Our Day

Ten Quick King Solomon Proverbs To Lighten Our Day

(PERSONALLY I BELIEVE THAT ALL PEOPLE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THESE WORDS EACH DAY) (OLDPOET56)

This is ten of King Solomon’s proverbs and shouldn’t take more than about two moments of your time. The dictionary says a proverb is a profound saying, maxim, or oracular utterance requiring interpretation.

  1. A just man walks in his integrity and his children that come after him shall be blessed because of his actions.
  2. Even a child is known by their actions whether they are pure and whether they are correct.
  3. The spirit of a man is like a candle to the Lord who searches all our inner thoughts.
  4. It is better to live on the corner of a house-top than to live in a mansion with a hate filled woman.
  5. He that keeps his mouth shut and his tongue from wagging keeps their own soul from trouble.
  6. If you see a person who is wise in their own deceit there is more hope for a fool than for that person.
  7. Evil men do not understand judgement but they that seek the Lord understand all things.
  8. He that turns away their ears from the Word of God even his prayers are an abomination.
  9. Give wine to those who are of heavy hearts. Let him drink and forget his poverty and remember their misery no more.
  10. A wise person will listen and will obtain learning and a person of understanding will listen to wise counsels. To fear the Lord is the beginning of knowledge but a fool despises wisdom and instruction.

Information About The Holy Spirit

Information About God’s Holy Spirit

 

As those of you who know me personally or through these commentaries I share with you here then you know that I grew up going to a local Church of Christ. It would be fair to say that I spent my growing up years there 10-17. But at 17 I made myself quit going. Through my own studies I came to realize that there had to be much more depth in many subject matters than the level that I had been taught.  Subject matters of Scriptures and Faith in which could not hold a blind eye to the fact of their differences. And to be totally honest, my hormones were pulling me toward another line of thought at this same time frame also.

 

One of their two Elders of the Congregation and I had several  Q & A about such things as The Holy Spirit, Spirits, Souls, Possessions, and Miracles. I decided on The Holy Spirit as the subject matter today partly due to these conversations I had with Him and with a few others I trust for Honesty as well as with Wisdom. The Church of Christ Doctrine does not believe in any type of Possession. When one hears the word Possessed, do not their minds go to the thought of ‘Demonic’? But, if it is possible to be possessed with an Evil Spirit, could you not also be possessed with a Spirit of Light? One of the last times that this Elder and I got to speak one of the last things he said to me was about not really understanding “this Holy Spirit thing”. I have thought about those words several times throughout the decades. Now I realize that there were a whole lot of Biblical meat issues that those local folks actually knew that they didn’t know. It is a sad thing that the Earthy Leadership of The Lord’s Bride (The Church) does not know what 1/3 of The God Head is? How was that possible? My experiences were many decades ago, hopefully things have grown in their faith and knowledge since my days.

 

(Matt: 28:19 and 2 Cor. 13:14)

After The Lords ascension back to Heaven from which He came, The Lord did as He said He would do. The Lord sent back to the Earth, to His Servants the Apostles, His Holy Spirit to empower them, the Holy Spirit, to Comfort them. For further understanding on this incident please read through the second chapter of the Book of Acts. Please, if your get the time and opportunity to do it please loiter threw it. After the chapter and verse given is a help word, a word of thought, about Who and What exactly is The Holy Spirit?

 

Gen. 1:2—Spirit of God

Matt. 10:20—Your Father

Zech 12:10—Grace

John 14:17—Truth

Romans 1:4—Holiness

Rev. 19:10—Prophesy

John 14:16, 26—The Comforter

Hebrews 9:14—Eternal

Matt 12:31,32—Sin against, Eternal

Acts 28:25—Speaks

John 14:26—Teaches

Acts 9:31—Comfort

John 16:8-11—Convicts men

Matt. 12:28—Miracles preformed by

Luke 4:1—Filled by

Romans 1:4—Raised by

I Tim. 3:16—Justified by

Acts 28:25—Speaks Within Prophets

2 Tim. 3:16—All Scripture is given by

Eph. 6:17—His Word

Romans 8:11—Indwells us

I John 2:20,27—Anoints us

Acts 2:17-41—Baptizes us

John 16:13—guides us

Micah 3:8—Empowers us

1 Cor. 2:10-16—give us discernment

Gal. 5:22, 23—Bears fruit

Acts 9:31—Comforts the Church

Romans 15:16—Sanctifies the Church

Joel 2:28-32—Promised

Acts 10:45—given to Gentiles also

Matt. 12:31,32—Can be sinned against

1 Cor. 2:12,13—Opens our Minds

Eph. 1:16,17—Opens the Mind

 

Folks, these are just a few of the many Passages concerning who and what the Holy Spirit is. The Body is the Tabernacle (dwelling place) of the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit of Christ, to be possessed by Him, this is something that I wish for every human being upon the planet. Fore friends, this would be pure safety from the evil around us and the evil we are yet to see. Fore where the Light of God is, darkness cannot enter! Folks, the Devil and His kind may throw rocks at our homes (Tabernacles) all day long. But, like with any thief or bad person, their ability to harm us, our family, our friends increases greatly, if we allow them on the inside of our homes, body/Soul. True destruction often seems to come from when the inside walls grow weak, then the crumble, then the sound of our own destruction?

 

I hope that this letter was of some value to you. Please feel free to drop me a note, question, opinions or ideas if you wish too.

United Methodist Church Announces Plan to Split Over Same-Sex Marriage

(THIS ARTICLE IS COURTESY OF THE NEW YORK TIMES)

 

United Methodist Church Announces Plan to Split Over Same-Sex Marriage

Under an agreement to be voted on in May, a new “traditionalist Methodist” denomination would continue to ban same-sex marriage and gay and lesbian clergy.

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A group of leaders of the United Methodist Church, the second-largest Protestant denomination in the United States, announced on Friday a plan that would formally split the church, citing “fundamental differences” over same-sex marriage after years of division.

The plan would sunder a denomination with 13 million members globally — roughly half of them in the United States — and create at least one new “traditionalist Methodist” denomination that would continue to ban same-sex marriage as well as the ordination of gay and lesbian clergy.

It seems likely that the majority of the denomination’s churches in the United States would remain in the existing United Methodist Church, which would become a more liberal-leaning institution as conservative congregations worldwide depart.

A separation in the Methodist church, a denomination long home to a varied mix of left and right, had been brewing for years, if not decades. It had become widely seen as likely after a contentious general conference in St Louis last February, when 53 percent of church leaders and lay members voted to tighten the ban on same-sex marriage, declaring that “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.”

“We tried to look for ways that we could gracefully live together with all our differences,” Bishop Cynthia Fierro Harvey of Louisiana said. After last year’s conference, she said, “it just didn’t look like that was even possible anymore.”

In the months following, Bishop Harvey and 15 other church representatives came together in an informal committee that determined separation was “the best means to resolve our differences, allowing each part of the church to remain true to its theological understanding.”

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The United Methodist Church is only the latest denomination to be roiled with intense and exhausting theological disputes over the place of L.G.B.T. members and clergy. Such fights have led to an exodus of congregations from Presbyterian and Episcopal churches in recent years, and pushed young evangelicals and Catholics to leave the pews as well.

Representatives from the Methodists’ wide-ranging factions, including church leaders from Europe, Africa, the Philippines and the United States, hammered out the separation plan during three two-day mediation sessions held at law offices in Washington. The negotiations largely centered on how to allocate the church’s significant financial assets and how to craft a separation process.

Once the agreement is written in more granular detail, it must be approved when the denomination meets for its global conference in Minneapolis in May. The initial response from some conservatives and liberals after the announcement suggests its passage is likely.

“The solution that we received is a welcome relief to the conflict we have been experiencing,” said the Rev. Tom Berlin, who represented groups that opposed discrimination against L.G.B.T. people in the mediation. “I am very encouraged that the United Methodist Church found a way to offer a resolution to a long conflict.”

Conservatives, who seemed to have the upper hand after the vote tightening a ban on same-sex marriage, would get $25 million once their new denomination is formed and incorporated. All current clergy and lay employees of the denomination, even if they affiliate with the traditionalists, will get to keep their pension plans.

“It is not everything that we would have hoped for, but we think it is a good agreement that gets us out of the decades-long conflict that we have experienced and enables us to focus on ministry in a positive way,” said Tom Lambrecht, vice president of Good News, one of the conservative groups.

The factions agreed to allocate $39 million to support “communities historically marginalized by the sin of racism,” according to the agreement. That sum includes $13 million the traditionalists contributed instead of receiving as part of their portion.

Despite the deep doctrinal disputes that led to the split, the negotiations were “largely secular: process, governance, finances,” said Kenneth R. Feinberg, the lawyer who helped craft the thorny settlements that arose from the 2010 BP oil spill and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

“I’m the last person in the world who’s going to help the parties resolve their doctrinal differences,” said Mr. Feinberg, who assisted in the church’s mediation on a pro bono basis.

Local churches will choose whether to join any new traditionalist denomination or remain in the United Methodist Church. Several people interviewed on Friday believed that most American churches would stay, though there has not been any formal survey.

While a plurality of American Methodists consider themselves conservative, according to the Pew Research Center’s Religious Landscape Study in 2014, six in 10 believe that homosexuality should be accepted and nearly half favor same-sex marriage.

At many of the church’s regional conferences this past summer — in states like Florida, Georgia and Texas — members responded to last year’s vote by electing delegates for the upcoming global conference who largely supported including gays and lesbians in the full life of the church.

“There was a clear message; it is almost like what happened in St. Louis was not reflective of the majority in the United States,” Bishop Kenneth H. Carter of Florida, the president of the church’s Council of Bishops and a member of the mediation team, said of the response to last year’s vote. “That church just awakened.”

Methodism in the United States dates to the early 1700’s, with a long history of valuing local congregations over a top-down structure. It has split many times, most notably over slavery before the Civil War. Membership is varied demographically and politically, counting as adherents everyone from Hillary Clinton to Jeff Sessions.

Americans make up a diminishing share of the United Methodist Church’s global membership, and are projected to soon be a minority, if they are not already.

While they are leaving the church, congregations overseas are growing rapidly, particularly in Africa; there are nearly 3 million members in Tanzania and the Democratic Republic of Congo. These groups tend to be more conservative than the typical American Methodist, which in part explains the vote in St. Louis, where more than 40 percent of delegates were from outside the United States.

Bishop Carter, the president of the Council of Bishops, said that while he had long advocated unity of the church, his own thinking shifted during the mediation process.

“It could not be a unity at someone’s expense,” Bishop Carter said. “There is a kind of unity that oppresses persons. It was just as obvious as we went along that we were going to look structurally different in the future.”

Though the traditionalists won the narrow vote in 2019, it is the progressives who will remain under the banner of the United Methodist Church. This was a topic of extensive conversation among the committee, Bishop Harvey said, though she said the conservatives seemed as if they had been making preparations to leave for some time.

The Wesleyan Covenant Association, a more conservative network of orthodox Methodist laity, clergy and churches, had been preparing for such a contingency for years, said its president, the Rev. Keith Boyette.

“People of all theological perspectives have grown very weary of the conflict and don’t have a vision for how it can end,” he said. And while he profoundly disagrees with the “centrists and progressives” on certain matters, he said, people cannot be compelled to leave the Methodist church. So the traditionalists are agreeing to do so voluntarily.

“I believe that our witness and message is much more important than a name,” he said, estimating that about a third of American churches could follow.

For those remaining, the future already looks different. After the vote last year to disallow gay clergy, candidates for ordination like Chet Jechura were devastated. Mr. Jechura, 30, who recently became engaged to his boyfriend and who serves at Foundry United Methodist in Washington, first felt the call to preach when he was 12, and he had spent years trying to find a church that would fully accept him.

When the plan was released on Friday, Mr. Jechura read it carefully and decided to take time to reflect on what it all meant. He thought of the spiritual practice he has started with his fiancé: naming one hope or joy every morning.

This day, he said, “I do feel hope for the people called Methodist.”

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Elizabeth Dias covers faith and politics from Washington. She previously covered a similar beat for Time magazine. @elizabethjdias

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(Philosophy) Of Grace

GRACE

 

When one is full of grace or grace is given from one to another, what do you think of? In index in my Bible says this about grace—unmerited favor. I don’t think I have ever used those exact words for the depiction before but if you really think about grace from God The Creator toward the creatures He created in Their own image; undeserved kindness, yes, unmerited, unearned kindness. It is the Truth that we humans are saved by Grace. Absolutely this is true, for if we humans were not saved by the Grace of God, then most assuredly everyone of us would perish. There would be no hope for anyone of salvation. For no human of their own accord could live a perfectly perfect life for indeed a man’s righteous is but filthy rags to The Lord. (Is 64:6)

 

I hope that you don’t mind but I would like to put down on paper a few of the beautiful yet direct passages in their meaning. All Scriptures are given for our own understanding and knowledge sake. (Eph 2: 4-10)

4.) But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us.

5.) Even when we were dead in sins He made us alive together with Christ (by grace we are saved)

6.) And has reached us up together and made us sit together, in Heavenly places in Jesus Christ.

7.) That in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Jesus Christ.

8.) For by Grace we are saved Through Faith and not of yourselves: it is the gift of God.

9.) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10). For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God had ordained that we should walk in them. Remember, without faith it is impossible to please God.

Romans 6: 14 For sin shall not have rule over you for you are not under the Law (Old Covenant/Old Testament)

John 1: 14 And The Word (Jesus) was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.

John 1: 17 For the Law was given by Moses, but grace and truth cam by Jesus Christ.

Romans 5: 1-2 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. By whom we also have access by faith into grace where in we stand and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

 1 Peter 3: 7 Likewise, you husbands, dwell with them (wives) according to knowledge, giving honor to your wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and being Heirs together in the Grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

 

I hope that I haven’t bored you with the way I laid out this letter to you. Personally I thought these were some  beautiful passages concerning and defining God’s Grace to us. But we all also have an obligation back to God. Some Christian religions teach that once saved always saved. Also that through God’s Grace we are saved so there is nothing that we really have to do in our own personal lives, these ideas are usually taught in unison with each other. But you see, there is a small problem, this is not what the Scriptures teach. Some will tell you that they were baptized (sprinkled) when they were 8 days old so now they can live what ever life style they want to. 2 Peter 3: 16b “they that are unlearned and unreliable twist, as they do also the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

 

We are all saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ for without Jesus there is no salvation for anyone! But there actually are some other considerations. There are a few simple requirements of each of us like faith in Jesus, loving Jesus and doing the things in our life that Jesus asks of us. If we truly do love Him the we will walk our life in the love and strength of our Master. If we walk our life in darkness then we show the whole world and The Lord, that it is not God we serve, but Satan. As Jesus said to us all so plainly “if you love Me, then you will do the things of which I ask.”

Deception And Deceit

Deception And Deceit

 

Most all of us within our life span do walk many different streets, styles, manners, job’s and come in contact with many different kinds of people. If we walk our life with our eyes open and our ears open we will learn many things. Things about ourself, other people, other cultures, religions and even different types of businesses. I believe that none of us really wants to be deceived, not by our families, friends, neighbors or co-workers and definitely not by our place of worship. For us not to be lost within our own life we all need something within us to be our foundation or foundations, our center of trust. We need an inner haven that we can turn to in our times of trouble or sorrow.  We all need this whether it is a family member, spouse or our faith in our Creator. But, what do we do when we learn that our foundation, our security blanket, has been lying to us, deceiving us? This is hard enough on a person when we find out we were being told things that simply were not so by the very people that we trusted the most. When we were being fed incorrect information by accident or through lack of knowledge it is much easier to forgive the person or persons. But, it is so much more hurtful when we find out that we were or are now just plain being lied to.

Lies, deceit, greed, these are all instruments used by Satan to hurt us, to deceive us and to hollow us out inside. Yet when we are told lies by our parents and our society from our very early childhood how do you expect children to feel about ‘our word’ to them? Have you asked yourself yet just what in the world am I talking about?  Consider things like Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. Do you say, oh, those are just harmless little lies, yet are they really harmless? When a child finds out that their parents have been lying to them (their whole lives) you have crushed that faith they had in you forever, they now know that their rock, their foundation, will lie to them over and over again. You have broken their bond of trust, do you honestly believe that they are just harmless little lies in their eyes? What about when a Minister or Pastor of a church dresses up as Santa Clause and parades around as such within the church?

 

There are two more major themes in regards to the science fiction of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny I would like you to think about. Christmas is suppose to be completely about Jesus and His birth. But, the Devil and His worshipers have through time taken Jesus out of the Christmas equation. Jesus has been replaced with a jolly little fat man in a red suit with flying reindeer who can do many magical things. Then there is also the commercial side of this transfiguration, Christmas has become about how much money you can afford to spend. The truth is this mindset does help keep the economy going, simply put, Santa sells, Jesus does not.

 

There are only two main times of the year that the Christian world tries to promote the times of Christ to the rest of the world, Christmas and Easter. Yet the Devil wants no recognition of Jesus at all so the world blindly follows Pagan traditions. At Christmas time when people should we worshiping Jesus and celebrating His birth, instead the world promotes a Pagan replacement while lying to their children for years. These acts ruin the trust the children’s had in their parent and other adults around them. Then at Easter time when we should be celebrating the death and resurrection of the Messiah instead we put a fictitious Rabbit on a pedestal and we are hiding eggs for the children. Doing this we put the events of our Savior aside in our children’s minds, with lies.

 

By the time we are young adults we have spent our young lives seeing and hearing things that have been done to ourselves and to others that should have never ever happened. In school we are taught it is okay to cheat because it is only cheating if we get caught. In the business world we’re taught that lying and stealing isn’t really lying and stealing, again, unless we get caught. But if we have acquired enough money by the time we do get caught to afford a good lawyer you will probably get off anyway, you might even become President. Lying, cheating and stealing is everywhere in our society today.  Friends, we all have to do our very best to walk our daily life in the Light that is Jesus, to walk our life by His examples that He set for us all. This is so very important for our families sake, our neighbors sake, our communities sake and for our own sake. We are not just condemning our own selves, when we walk a crooked path that everyone notices, including our children. This is a job that each one of us must do to save ourself, our loved ones and society around us. If a person that we know were to be asked of us if we are a Christian, and we were not around, what would their answer be? What would our family, neighbors and co-workers actually say to that question? What do the people we care about and love actually say about us when we are not around? How many would say of us that yes, he/she is a good person, a good Christian? Or, do these same people say of us, don’t trust them, they lie and steal?

 

Do we ever think about what Jesus will say to us, about us, about the life that we have lived? What will Jesus say to each of us? Will it be as in Matthew 25: 34 when He said “Come ye blessed of My Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world?” Or, will He say the saddest and most horrible words any human could ever hear? Matthew 25: 41 “Depart from Me ye cursed into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and His Angels?” Jesus has told us that “no liar shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Please, let us all think about what we are doing in our daily life. I pray that no human that I have ever known would ever have to hear Jesus say these words to him/her (Depart from Me, ye cursed into everlasting fire.) Remember, the Lord loves each one of us and does not want us to walk astray of His teachings. If we won’t do this for our own Soul, please consider the ones around us that we say we love. Do we really care about our children, our families? Do we care enough to quit lying to them, breaking their trust in us even if we consider them little lies like Santa and the Easter Bunny?

 

Are We All Equal And Even?

Are We All Equal And Even?

 

Good evening folks, as you can see I have decided to write to you on the subject matter of if we are all of equal value both in our own human eyes and in the eyes of our Creator. Let’s break the two words down separately for a moment, define them and see if they come back together in the end. I looked the words up in the Webster Dictionary and this is what it had to say. Equal: same in number, style, merit, fit or qualified, evenly balanced, one equal to another. Then for the word Even: uniform in quality, equal in amount, impartial, invites comparison.

 

I do hope that with age that we all do learn from the life that we have lived, good, bad and the ugliness of our societies we survive within. I know that our Lord said for us to “not put those of gray hair away, for in the gray hair on man lies the wisdom of the world.” I used to wonder for years how any of us humans could possibly think of ourselves as being superior or as subordinate to other people then at the age of 22 I had an eye opening reality slap me in the face and I was given the answer. At the age of 22 I left northern Illinois where I had lived for 12 years and moved back to the town I was born in which is in the Blue Ridge Mountains of southwest Virginia. From the ages of 10-17 I attended our local Church of Christ but from 17-22 I have to admit that I didn’t attend very often. So, when I moved back to the home of my family roots I decided that I would start going back to Church at their local Church of Christ.

 

I attended this Church for three weeks when on one Sunday evening the Preacher turned in his 30 day notice of his quitting. He and his family were not local folks, in fact they were “Yankees”, they were from the state of Pennsylvania so quite honestly I was a bit surprised that he had even even been hired there as some of the folks in that region are still fighting the Civil War within their own minds. That Sunday evening after the Preacher had given his notice I met him at the door and told him that I had been thinking about making this the Church the place I was going to be a regular at so could he tell me what was troubling him so much that he decided to quit and leave the area. What the man told be both shocked me and woke me up at the same time. What he said was that it is the Church Leadership’s opinion here that the only people who have Souls, are white people. Seriously, that is what he said, I never ever stepped foot in that building again.

 

For years I had wondered how it was possible that some people throughout history to treat each other as horribly as we have. How was it possible for the atrocities of the slave trade of years ago and to this current date? How was it possible that the government of our Nation (USA) to have ever worked to eliminate a whole race of people like they did all throughout the 1800’s with the Native Americans. How could a government or a major ruling race say to another that “you are less than I am because you don’t have the same skin color as me or because your religion is somewhat different than what we believe.” How phony can a person or persons be? One of the thoughts that I have pondered throughout the years is just how does a person think they will be able to justify their ego’s and their hatreds when they step in front of the Judgement Seat of our Creator? How could it be possible for me to believe that it is okay with our Creator for me to treat people of a different skin color or from another country than I am as if they are less important than I am?

 

Friends, it took me a long time before I finally understood this reality, it took me a long time to “get it.” People treat other people as ‘sub-humans’ because that is what they believe inside themselves. This ‘truth’ is both sad and scary at the same time. This reality does also extend to financial class hatred of each other. Things like I hate you because you are richer than me or, I hate you because you have less than me. So many do try to puff their own selves up by squashing and demeaning all others. Truly, Demons do walk this Earth among us and they are as starving Lions looking for whom they may devour. The truth is that many people actually do believe that all other people are ‘less’ than they are. That at best, only a few other people are Equal to themselves. Many people of this egotistical world do not believe that others should be considered or treated as “Even” or allowed onto the playing field of life with themselves.

 

Jesus tells us plainly over and over again that God IS NOT a respecter of persons. He is telling us that one person is not better than another. Whether we are a King, a President or a person who cleans toilets for a living and lives under a bridge, we are all of equal importance to God our Creator. Salvation is given by God to all people of the Earth, to all Nations, to all Languages. Why is it that some of us humans seem to think that we can slander God’s human creations and demean them? How is it possible that we can think we will not be held accountable by our own Creator of these sins? Friends, it is all of us who are not “Equal, Even” or sufficient, not of our own abilities. It is only by the Mercy, Grace and Power of our Creator that any of us have ever drawn a single breath. Folks it is by our ‘works, our actions’ that we are known. If we hate our brother without a cause, we at our own Judgement will be looked upon by the Hosts of Heaven, God’s Angels and our Creator Himself as nothing more than a murderer.

 

Just think of this, if we humans would do this one thing, to love one another as Jesus has loved us, then most of the worlds ills would go away. Love, kindness, goodness, charity, and mercy, what an abstract thought in our society today. When a child comes forth out of the womb it is Equal, it is Even, it is the humans around the child that teaches them both truth and errors, love and hate.